Friday, September 03, 2010
Wheatland School Board Meeting Tonight
Ah, the Ides of March. Dig into your high school freshman memories. In 44 BC Julius Caesar was stabbed on the steps of the Roman Senate. Not a good day for Caesar.

Will the Ides of March 2010 be a good day for the Wheatland School Board? Will they "succeed" at confirming that yes indeed, Wheatland Is A Place For Hate? Or will concerned Platte County citizens and WHS students show up to try once again to talk sense into their closed little minds? What Would Jesus Do? He'd grab his dad's hammer and put those banners up himself.

Tonight's school board meeting starts at 7pm, at the usual place. The board is keeping its collective fingers crossed that they "won" and that everyone will have forgotten those soundbytes and all the recognition their Hate Games illicited for our fair town. They're hoping with whatever hearts they have that no one will show, no one will ask questions, no one will make them think.

See you at the meeting. The board will have to allow that confounded 30 minutes of public comment (and this time shout foul if Kelly Tyson uses some of it like he did month) but they won't like it any more than they did last time. Dallas Mount may ask that the time be extended, so that all may be heard, but likely no other board member will have the decency to second his motion. Again.
 
The board will have to deal with the "No Advertising in Schools" situation, because that was officially asked for. Seeing how they decide to handle that alone will be worth attending the meeting.

WHS is safe from the No Place For Hate label. No one is thinking of moving to Wheatland or Wyoming for its progressive, or liberal or "Do Unto Others" ethics. No one thinks that Wheatland is even aware of what's going on outside its walls. Nope, Wheatland is "safe" from infiltration by anyone who doesn't Think Like Jack. Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!

Any change for Wheatland will have to come from those of us who already live here. If Wheatland is ever to be more than what it is, it will be because of the people like the ones who showed up, and spoke up last month at the school board meeting, and those of us who will indeed show up again. Please join us. Make them listen to 30 more minutes of what the people of Platte want. Show them that Wheatland is NO Place For Hate.
Thursday
4/1/10 10:20 PM
MP: 
A little clarification on the March 16 & 17 comments on the closing of Platte County's Public Shooting range.  There was some new fence being put in and the folks who were working on the fence were tired of hitting the ground to dodge the bullets and didn't want to take a bullet in the head, so they requested it be closed while they were working to avoid any mishaps.  It had not a thing to do with the School Board.
Wednesday
3/24/10 2:03 PM
Input required from Jack: 
So Jack, what should we do about these gays? Should we ban them from going to any and all dances? And I'm not talking just high school, I'm talking adults too. Should we ban them from attending ALL functions as couples because, as you so wisely put it, it's glorifying them.

i
Wednesday
3/24/10 12:28 PM
No Prom for Jack!: 
Hey, Jack wants to ban the "mentally ill" (as determined by... ah... his own crazy self) from social events. Gee, that's a good idea, Jack. I thnk they should ban you from this here forum. 
Wednesday
3/24/10 11:47 AM
Jack: 
I am aware of the story and fully support the school board there.
There is no "right" to a prom and if those folks do not wish to support glorifying a mental illness they have a right to cancel it.
Tuesday
3/23/10 5:14 PM
To Jack: 
Well, you might want to try Mississippi.. go to BBC. com Today and check out the Prom girl and what it did to a little town.  Cancled prom cuz she wanted to bring her girlfriend.
Friday
3/19/10 8:10 AM
Jack: 
I would love to but I do not think I am photogenic enough for politics.
Thursday
3/18/10 3:23 PM
Jack for Mayor of Wheatland: 
Jack, I'm assuming you live in Wheatland because you're so into the slime of it all. You should really, and I mean this sincerely, think about running for Mayor or at least Commissioner of Platte. You are a perfect mouthpiece for the community! You are the epitome of all that is Wheatland and Platte. You have the politics, the philosophy and the intelligence that set Wheatland apart from, well, from anywhere else in the entire country, and, likely the world. You ARE Wheatland! Please Jack, step up to the plate and keep speaking up for Wheatland. We need you Jack. With you in charge of at least a part of things, there will be no gays come running in here, and the liberals will finally take a cue and get the heck outta here and take their lattes with them. Jack for Mayor! Then Jack for Governor once he's cleaned up the streets of Wheatland. You're a great representative for Wheatland residents.
Thursday
3/18/10 11:24 AM
Jack: 
"So Jack put you down for "no advertisiing" in school at all? Wonder what they'll paint the floor of the gym with?"

Maybe the school name or colors, mascot etc?


Thursday
3/18/10 8:38 AM
Jack: 
"From what i heard no one else on that board had the courage to second the motion, therefore shutting the free speech off."

Sorry, there are no free speech issues. The freaks got their half hour public comment period to annoy everyone.

The board was well within it's rights to not extend annoyance time.
Wednesday
3/17/10 9:40 PM
MSmith: 
Wheaterville Resident,
You’re suggesting that the school board had something to do with the shooting range being closed for a few days?
Wednesday
3/17/10 8:36 PM
Wheaterville Resident: 
Well, must be why the City locked up the "PUBLIC" shooting range a few days back.  So no one could practice before the meetings???? Or since we had a few nice days, no one could use the PUBLIC shooting range. No sign on the gate as to why- local Sheriff has no clue since it is not HIS problem. 
Tuesday
3/16/10 9:43 PM
MSmith: 
Where’s the news about all the people who turned out in support of the banners? Why hasn’t wheaterville.com reported on the record number of people who addressed the Board of Trustees at last nights meeting?
Tuesday
3/16/10 4:26 PM
Love people: 
"Those" folks are people as well.  Just becase we may not be comfortable with them.  The challenge in loving one another is to love someone that is different than you or maybe "unloveable".
Tuesday
3/16/10 4:26 PM
Play the Game: 
Was Dallas just playing the game. Make a motion knowing full well it wouldn't get a second. Happens all the time to make people think you are on their side. It is a great vote getter. Have the paper do an interview with him where he will go on public record. Then there will not be any doubt on his view point.
Tuesday
3/16/10 8:58 AM
OtMElTOst: 
to concept man: Forget the banners. Dallas Mount made a motion that all the public be heard. That's free speech, that's American, that's Wyoming. From what i heard no one else on that board had the courage to second the motion, therefore shutting the free speech off. Who cares about the banners? Wheatland is a gay free town now, thanks Joe Fabian the dance teacher and Kelly Tyson who says no to all advertising, at least sometimes, and lee Dunham who along with Fabian and Tyson just needs to learn to say "no comment". School board one, Wheatland, zero. A really big zero.
Tuesday
3/16/10 7:35 AM
Here is a Concept: 
So you want to keep Dallas Mount on the Board what exactly has he done to warrent this. Made motions and voted to keep the banners. Why did he vote to keep the banners. He or anyone else that voted for them has never said that I know of. I have not heard Dallas get up in the meetings and defend the banners. Maybe he has in the local coffee shop to drum up votes for the next election or to avoid a conflict.
Tuesday
3/16/10 7:25 AM
Speaking: 
The FAB FOUR where elected by the majority to speak for the District, 65 is not a majority.
Tuesday
3/16/10 6:36 AM
News: 
Ha, Ha, News  this morning reads, "Lesbian Air Force Sergeant Discharged After Police Find Marriage Certificate". I love it. "And Stay Out"!
Monday
3/15/10 7:50 PM
Vote em out: 
65 speak a lot louder then the FAB FOUR, who brought this all on the town. Bring back the banners and get rid of the board, except for Dallas Mount.
Monday
3/15/10 6:41 PM
To PC Parent: 
A crowd of 65 give or take speak for a School district of over 4,000. What is wrong with this picture.
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A Banner Day in Platte County
A school board in Wheatland, Wyoming, made its message loud and clear during a recent meeting: Schools are a place for hate. Or so disciples of modus tollens would insist, now that the administrators administrating Platte Country School District have reaffirmed their decision to prevent the area's temples of education from hoisting banners that read NO PLACE FOR HATE.

The Anti-Defamation League-sponsored posters had already been 86ed by the board once back in January, but hate-hating parents, students, teachers, and members of the community's "we want people to like each other" camp swarmed to the board's meeting earlier this week to try to sway the opinion. The gathering quickly became a place for hate.

The original snag, according to the article, was the inclusion on the banner of a logo for the Gay and Lesbian Fund for Colorado—a deal breaker for naysaying board members. Discouraging hate they're all for. But discouraging hate against a specific group, while also discouraging hate against everyone else not in that group? That might seem like anti-hate preferential treatment. And you know how high school kids get about perceived favoritism.

But not to worry. Board chairman Kelly Tyson swept in with an enlightenment bomb and explained that he simply didn't want to deal with the social issues (what are those?), and that the schools are equipped to handle cases of hate in-house. For example, he cited the district's strict stance against bullying, thereby reassuring the assemblage that, if nothing else, the school is doing what every other school in the entire world already halfheartedly does.

What the board members failed to realize is that the banner would not actually curtail hatred—the preservation of which clearly being important to them. Rather, it would just encourage students to relate to one another as human beings and exalt individual expression as the highest virtue. But since all high school students do—other than text naked pictures of themselves to each other—is indiscriminately hate, the board members wouldn't have anything to worry about. Except maybe the cost to pay union custodians to hang the banners, those collectivized wage-gougers.

—Neil Janowitz

Check out Neil on his blog!


Saturday
2/27/10 7:31 AM
From me to To eww...: 
Oh I don't know...I figured people would be just flooding this site with comments after what I said. Darn it! You got me!!!
Saturday
2/27/10 6:26 AM
To Ewww: 
How come you are not getting much response?
Friday
2/26/10 9:02 PM
hey: 
Hey Randy! Are you any relation to Clark Kent?
Friday
2/26/10 7:17 PM
Ewww to haha... : 
Please tell me we have more people like Randy here than haha. PLEASE!!
Friday
2/26/10 6:42 PM
ha ha,: 
Hey Randy!!! And thats the way we like it! Stay away!
Friday
2/26/10 6:36 PM
way out side the LOOP: 
all I said was that I was out of the current loop of this thread.  Live right in Wheatland, heart of Platte County Wyoming and proud of it... dont hate anyone, not even my ex.
Friday
2/26/10 5:23 PM
Randy Kent: 
Too Bad: No one who doesn't agree with Jack lives anywhere near you. Just like no one who is disgusted with the school board's actions lives in Platte County. Just ask Stuart Nelson. Heaven's no, everyone in Wheatland thinks Jack is really smart and that hate is a good thing.  

Neil I like your blog alot, good stuff.
Friday
2/26/10 12:18 PM
Outsider: 
Oh, I live here!  Right around the corner FROM YOU!
Friday
2/26/10 12:07 PM
SPDDMN: 
Truth knows no bounds. And yes, I live in Wyoming but I'm no "liberal." Libertarian yes, but not liberal.

Can't speak for the others.
Friday
2/26/10 11:16 AM
Too Bad : 
Too bad all you left wing liberals have to gang up on Jack. Surely you people dont live here do you? I hope not!
Thursday
2/25/10 8:19 PM
Outsider: 
Lol!  That's a good one! 

I don't say much to him, because I wouldn't waste too much time on him.  Why feed him anymore?  Bye, Jack. 

Thursday
2/25/10 7:45 PM
way outside the loop: 
Jack, me thinks you became mentally unstable (ILL) from spending too much time on this site trying to justify your phobias. 
Thursday
2/25/10 6:46 PM
SPDDMN: 
Antiquated beliefs and biased observations based in popular opinion. That is how it ended up on the list in the first place giving cause for the political climate that lead to it's removal. Just admit it Jack, every honest study from 1973 on concludes that it should not be listed as a mental illness. Your hung up on the idea that since the removal was influenced politically that qualifies it as a mental illness, yet there is no scientific evidence to support your position, never has been.
Thursday
2/25/10 6:08 PM
Outsider: 
You're referring to a book that was written in the 1800's, about sadism and masochism!  Get a grip on yourself!
 
You are just too funny dude!
Thursday
2/25/10 4:21 PM
Jack: 
"I would like to add that a unbiased CONTROLLED observation would be creditable scientific evidence. Has anything like that ever been done?"

In reference to schizophrenics, MPD, bipolar and some other disorders I am pretty sure that has been done.
It would take me some time to find an answer on that, I do have a psychologist in the extended family that could probably provide me with something, but it's not something I could post right away, I would have to ask them.

"Now, "distress and difficulty in functioning" is dependent on the environment that the person lives, leaving up for debate whether negative social attitudes towards homosexuals would cause them to meet the last two requirements of the definition. Please consider these factors in your response."

This is problematic. There are many cases of people being seriously mentally ill without it causing them "distress." They end up causing distress in others. There are a lot of good examples among famous killers.

As to original? You need to have access to a decent university library, that goes pretty far back, pre 1900's through the 40's and a lot of those pubs are rare.
You are talking about people like Sandor Rado,
Charles Socarides and Richard von Krafft-Ebing in Psychopathia Sexualis.

Since I am no longer in school I don't have current access to them. You would have to make a trip to a decent University and look them up or have access to their databases which I no longer have.

When I was in school I read a lot of books and papers I have no way to get my hands on now.

However, whichever way you cut it, point two has been based on point one which was political, therefor point two is compromised.

On top of all that you have common sense. Any other item that appeared in such a small amount of the general population would be considered abnormal, NOT normal. It is like saying birth defects are a normal condition.

It's all based on emotion and politics.
The whole gene idea has been thoroughly discredited with twin studies. It will most likely fall out to be a combination of pre-natal and/or early childhood influences, in other words the usual places where most mental illnesses are either created or exacerbated.
 
To Outsider:
You never know, however I was a 55D20 in the US Army. I have had my status tested before receiving security clearances on several occasions.
If I were mentally ill I think it would have been caught long ago.
I do have a psychologist in the family and I think they would warn my family if they thought I had such problems.

Thursday
2/25/10 2:38 PM
Outsider: 
You said yourself Jack that "there are a lot of mentally ill people that live their lives without being noticed, that doesn't make them well either."  Could you be one?
Thursday
2/25/10 1:23 PM
SPDDMN: 
Also, how many schizos have a history of maintaining employment, continued education, and healthy relationships with peers, family and friends? That is not a appropriate comparison, Jack.

I would like to add that a unbiased CONTROLLED observation would be creditable scientific evidence. Has anything like that ever been done?

mental illness: A health condition that changes aperson’s thinking, feelings, or behavior (or all three) and that causesthe person distress and difficulty in functioning.
http://science.education.nih.gov/supplements/nih5/mental/other/glossary.htm

This is what is up for debate: try to stay within the definition of mental illness. The first part of the definition I would agree that homosexuality fits this description (thinking, feeling, behavior) with exception of the word "health." It is the second part that is up for debate.

Now, "distress and difficulty in functioning" is dependent on the environment that the person lives, leaving up for debate whether negative social attitudes towards homosexuals would cause them to meet the last two requirements of the definition. Please consider these factors in your response.
Thursday
2/25/10 12:59 PM
SPDDMN: 
Jack-
Your first point could possibly be agreed on... But we must first verify point two.

Would you please cite the ORIGINAL scientific evidence that caused homosexuality to be listed as an illness in the first place? If we are going to discuss SCIENTIFIC evidence we will have to start there.
Thursday
2/25/10 11:45 AM
Jack: 
Nice try but no.
You wrote: "This observation can also be reinforced with testimony from family, friends, employers, co-workers, social service providers, and others that interact with homosexuals who do indeed live normal, healthy, rewarding, and productive lives. Stories of people that embraced their differing sexual preferences and those that interact with them are all the evidence needed by those that do not fear diversity."

Stories and anecdotes are not scientific evidence no matter how you cut it. I bet you can find plenty of people that are schizo that will claim the same. There are a lot of mentally ill people that live their lives without being noticed, doesn't make them well either.

There are two pieces of this argument.
One, the APA's decision was political, not medical.
Two, that homosexuality is a mental illness, just as it was in 1973.

Number one is well established by the homosexual activists themselves and the history surrounding the APA's meetings.
Number two was well established for years and years and was only brought into question by number one above, which, you guessed it, is not based on any science or medicine but politics and activism.
This is not something you can decide on based on a few posts on a comment board.

I do not have the ability to post the text from dozens of books and studies here.

I posted enough good references to get you started. This is not based on one opinion and a lot of the material comes from homosexual psychiatrists, in essence, from the horses mouth.

Now you can search for the truth , which takes time and effort, or you can say "I'm too lazy to bother and will just let my emotions and current opinion decide for me." 

If that's the way you want to approach it, fine, but it does not reflect reality or the history of the subject.

I used to be considered fairly liberal on these issues and ten years ago would probably have agreed with you.
My opinion has changed because I actually took a hard look at it and investigated it.

Thursday
2/25/10 11:41 AM
Twistin' away : 
Of course Joe Fabian would say news organizations "twisted" his words. Like someone else pointed out, nowhere did he say they misquoted him. The outrageous statements from Mr. Fabian that have been appearing in articles are DIRECT quotes from his mouth. Oh, but the big, bad media "twisted" his words somehow. Or maybe...just MAYBE...he's finally realizing what a colossal mistake he made in voicing these ignorant statements.
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Meeting Misconceptions

Sitting in on a typical Platte County School Board meeting is about as exciting as watching a cat sleep. This Monday  however, that cat will be a lion, and it won't be napping.

The February 15 board of trustees meeting will be the first since January 18, when the board voted 4-3 to remove the "No Place for Hate" banners because the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) program is partially sponsored by the Colorado Gay and Lesbian Fund (CGLF). The banners, which had been up at Wheatland High School (WHS) since fall, include the CGLF logo along with those of the other sponsors.

Shortly after the Jan. meeting, the banners were taken down, the ADL reluctantly removed WHS from the list of 25 regional schools who had earned the honor of being "No Place for Hate", and Wheatland was in the spotlight. The four board members who voted to remove the banners were interviewed by local and state newspapers, and students responded by putting NPFH posters on their lockers, and forming a Facebook page to rally support to get the banners put back up. The Platte County Record Times devoted extra space to print the many letters from WHS alumni, parents and residents who disapproved of the board's decision, as well as a handful from those who agreed with the removal of the banners. Wheatland's "Banning the Banner" became news all around Wyoming, and then the nation.

Despite what appears to be keen interest on both sides of the banner issue, and what could be a record turnout Monday, the February board meeting will be held in its regular venue, the meeting room at the Administration Office, at 1350 Oak St. As of this writing, the only time allotted to any discussion of the NPFH banners will be during the ten minute "Public Comment" period. (This is usually at the beginning of the meeting, so public, you have been warned; don't be late.)
 
ADL representative Bruce DeBoskey has formally requested time at the meeting to present facts about the NPFH program, and to answer any questions and address misconceptions the board or the public may have. DeBoskey will be at Monday's meeting, although as of this writing his Feb. 3 request to be included on this month's agenda still has not been granted.

PCSD1 Superintendent Stuart Nelson has also declined individual requests from Platte County residents to be included on the agenda regarding the banner. As of this writing, there is no Agenda available to the public on the district's website
 
According to Jason Marsden, of the Matthew Shepard Foundation in Denver, individual board members had not returned calls from the ADL. However, Chuck Ruwart, who voted with Dallas Mount and Jay Haux to keep the NPFH banners up, has not received a phone call from the ADL, or had any other communication from them besides a form given to each board member shortly after January's vote.

Two weeks after the board's decision, Superintendent Nelson told The Wyoming Tribune Eagle that the "...only negative comments [he has heard about the board's decision] had come from out-of-towners, special interest groups, and former residents" and that “…every local parent he'd spoken with supported the board's decision.”  

Another two weeks have gone by and if that was true then, it's not any more.

Part of Monday's meeting will likely include the presentation of a petition designed to keep the NPFH banner issue alive by requesting a definition of policies currently in place in local schools, and signed by local residents.

Wyo. Stat. 21-3-110(a)(viii) requires the School Board to "Consider every petition presented to the board and subscribed by at least five (5) citizens of the school district and take some action on such petition within thirty (30) days after it is received; provided, that no action shall be required if the precise question presented by the petition has been considered and acted upon by the board of trustees at any meeting held within the current fiscal year." In effect, any five people, who live in the district, can force the board to include an item on their agenda, and to vote on it, as long as the school board has not voted on the exact same thing within the same fiscal year.

Stepping up onto soapbox:  If this issue is important to you, go to the meeting. Whichever side you're on, be respectful of those who disagree with you. Listen. Ask questions. Don't jump to conclusions. Wheatland will learn something from this, and everyone has something to contribute to that.

The Mission statement of PCSD1 is available on their website, and it's exactly what I'd like to hold them to. It's worth it for all to take the time to read (or re-read) it, so here it is: 

Our Mission

The District is committed to the process of continuous school improvement.

The board, administration, and the staff will model a positive, professional working relationship by:

•Operating openly and honestly.

•Establishing two-way communication and problem solving with our patrons.

•Following a chain of command when solving problems.

•We will jointly celebrate our successes and give credit to those responsible for our successes.

 

Our vision is to prepare children to become citizens for a 21st Century workplace.


If you're attending Monday's meeting, or if you're one of the people who've publically declared your support for the banner and the NPFH program, in letters to the editor or out on the streets of Wheatland, constructively holding the district accountable to the vision declared in their mission statement would be an excellent place to start.
Tuesday
2/16/10 6:58 AM
Drifter: 
No prob, LT.  Have fun with your dead horse.  I am heading to the land of the living.
Monday
2/15/10 11:54 PM
LT: 
To Tumblewood and Drifter and everyone else who plays on the streets of Wheaterville:

You give me way too much credit and your fellow Wheatervillians not enough :) I like that "keeping the fire stoked" image...Think of Wheaterville like it's the gift of fire...you can use it to warm yourselves, or you can use it to destroy things...its up to you, but try to remember that Wheaterville is just a little tiny cog in that vast liberal media conspiracy, not the cause of your current controversy. But thanks for the momentary power trip...I'll try not to let it go to my head.  

The school board meeting was phenomenal...really. If five parents complaints about that nasty logo started this current fire, the at least dozens and dozens of local residents who were at that meeting sure ought to be able to put it out!
Monday
2/15/10 7:12 PM
Concerned: 
To Sleazy Town 4 Sale,

How dare you judge over 4,000 people by the actions of so few. Have you ever been to Wheatland? Or are you just sitting in judgement of the entire town because of the actions of a few. You must have a very small mind.
Monday
2/15/10 2:40 PM
Sleazy Town 4 Sale: 
Tumblehead, what exactly is there to promote about Wheatland? Sounds like you are of the make this go away mind, and you'd like all the big bad media to go away, from this blog to the Casper and Cheyenne and Laramie and out and beyond. How come? What are you afraid of? Should people be promoting a stupid decision by the school board? Ya everyone move to Wheatland if you are how they define as normal. No thanks. 
Monday
2/15/10 2:27 PM
Drifter: 
You are totally right Tumblewood.
Monday
2/15/10 2:17 PM
Mrs. Beasley Says : 
To Will it Change anything? It has and it is. When is the last time you saw people taking a stand for much of anything around here? Wheatland gets to be known as the town of hate and intolerance or the little town that yelled and made a difference. Either way, things have changed. The question is for worse or for better?
Monday
2/15/10 1:30 PM
tumblewood: 
It looks like this website and its financier and LT love a good squabble and as long as they can keep the fire stoked they get a lot of hits on their web site. It is too bad the web site does not promote the town rather than tear it down. Your kicking a dead horse now!!!!!:)
Monday
2/15/10 1:30 PM
Will it change anything?: 
     The school board has already made their decision once, I doubt that they will change their minds and overturn their last decision, I hate to say this but they don't want to look like they made the wrong decision.  Or was it even a wrong decision that they made in the first place, they made their decisions based on the facts that they had before them, if everyone was so worried about the banners they should of given them more info before the first vote, I don't believe that they will change their vote and I'm sure the banners will stay in the trash.  Move on Wheatland focus on more important things.   
Sunday
2/14/10 9:47 AM
Jack: 
"Our vision is to prepare children to become citizens for a 21st Century workplace."

What a horrible mission statement!

Is the only value to education the ability to be in the "workplace."

How about we educate ourselves and our children for the value a true education holds?

No wonder our country is swirling around the drain hole. Everybody's concern is that the teenager won't be able to run the cash register when he graduates instead of valuing a true education.

It sounds like something Stalin or Hitler would have said to prepare the nations "workers."
Sunday
2/14/10 9:00 AM
Terry McPhail: 
The school board should read its own mission statement. Do any of those people think before they open their mouths? He lost me when he said every single parent who had contacted him was for the censorship of the banner. Not even in the middle of Wyoming are you going to get that kind of homogeneity. Look it up, it doesn't mean gay.
Sunday
2/14/10 7:23 AM
So: 
Didn't the school Board already vote on this question in the fiscal year.
Saturday
2/13/10 5:47 PM
thanks: 
This is good advice. If more listening had been going on at last month's meeting we wouldn't probably be where we are now. It's important to remember that everyone on the board even if you don't agree with their vote either way is your neighbor.
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Hubert Has a Fence AND a Special Use Permit

Right?

I mean, we all sort of think that Hubert got his Special Use Permit this time around. Didn't he? Sure he did. How could he not?

If he did, it comes strapped to a lot of conditions, including, you guessed it, a fence. And this time a fence with Conditions. (Ain't nobody in Wheaterville gonna have to say: "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." Uh-Uh.)
 
Hubert finally gets his Special Use Permit (for at least six months or until there are more complaints) after a Zoning Certificate is approved, and after he builds a fence of bundles or boards, eight feet high, from the NE corner of his place to 50 feet from his house.

Deja vu again, but on a more manageable scale.

Marlin the Planner however, does not like being undermined, and he said so. He's not sure the current screening really screens, although everyone else, including the Planning and Zoning Board, disagrees with his assessment. If that fence does anything, it screens, is the the concensus. But darn it all, Marlin the Planner does not appreciate the "established rules" being bent. He was supposed to win this one.

Platte County resident Chris Gray agreed that Hubert's "bad behavior" shouldn't be "rewarded". Wait, what "bad behavior?" Oh--challenging his right to get the Special Use Permit! Which he got. Which indicates that he should have had a whole hell of a long time ago. Seems like "bad behavior"  like that "fighting for what is right" is something we all oughta see more of.

However, just to make sure that no one thinks anyone except Hubert and the posse were ever in the wrong, one of the conditions of Hubert's Special Use Permit is that everyone agrees that the approval of the Special Use Permit does not in any way "...imply any County override of applicable District Court Orders." So there. Na na na na na. 

Bottom line is that there'll be some more fence building going on before the Saga of Hubert is over, but it looks like everyone is ok with all of it.

Right?
Tuesday
6/2/09 2:09 PM
Huberts Possee: 
So, does anyone know for sure if Hubert has his 4th Special Use Permit....in his hand?  If not, why?
If so, good!
Tuesday
5/26/09 8:52 AM
Huberts Possee: 
Yep, Hubert got the special use permit but with all the conditions...like the "screening" extended within 50 feet of his house.  Does Marlin lay awake all night thinking up stipulations that have to be followed to get a special use permit?
The fence/screening really only benefits the neighbor across the road, that helped start all this up roar.  She can now look at the bundles of slabs instead of the salvage materials.  I hope she is happy that she caused Hubert all this trouble after he plowed and maintained her road for 15 years.  It cost Hubert $17,000 of his $20,000 bond, that the commissioners paid Grays Metal Solutions to remove equiptment from Huberts property.  Then there is the damage that was done to the sawmill equiptment.  Do you think the stress of 5 years of litigation has help contribute of Hubert's poor health?
We need to get Marlin out of the Planning and Zoning before this happens again. 
By the way, is there anyone interested in running for Dan Kirkbrides commissioner position? 
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New Year, New Stuff

2009 in Wheatland, WY and the surrounds looks like the times they are a' changin'.

WADCO is PCED...New Year, New Name. Wheatland Area Development COrporation (WADCO) is now Platte County Economic Development (PCED). New executive director coming soon, and a new website too...former ed Susan Jenkins had Big Wind Guys in town and they were NOT just talking hot air. 2009 could bring more wind and more economic development to Platte County, and PCED will be a driving force.

For instance, take a photo of the drive on I25 between Wheatland and Chugwater sometime this year. Odds are it's going to look mighty different by the time 2014 rolls around. That's been named The Wind Corridor by wind folks in the know--pretty soon you'll be able to connect the dots between the wind turbines, 'cuz folks, we got wind, lots of it, and the gov'ment gots cash to spend on turning it into energy.

That Big, Wonderful, New nursing home in Wheatland? Sounds like Platte County Economic Development there too. There's a timeline on this and lots of checkpoints--stay tuned and get involved. The good news is that the new nursing home will affect just about everyone at some point. Make it what you want it to be.

Get involved in PCED, get involved in the Chamber of Commerce, support local businesses, stick your nose into local politics, contribute time and ideas to your town and be a part of all the positive that's happening. 

You don't have to "go with the flow" but you should at least jump into the water.

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3/7/09 6:19 AM
Believe: 
   Wind turbines and economic developement to Platte county. Believe it when I see it.
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One More Reason to Hate Boulder, CO
Boulder, CO had their annual "Naked Pumpkin Run" with 300 bare-buttocks (that'd be 150 partici-pants, with two buttocks per) runners. They run thru the streets of that crazy liberal prarie dog hugging elitist enclave every year, wearing just a pumpkin on their head, er, on their noggin to be more specific. And if that doesn't make you just want to spit and poke fun, how 'bout the fact that 12 of those intellectual latte drinkers got CAUGHT and arrested! (Would you DO this if you couldn't avoid being CAUGHT?!?!?)
Anyway, Boulder might just slap their behinds with "sex offender" status, so there!
Wednesday
12/31/08 8:38 AM
Boulder Bun Basher: 
Ya, even Boulder goes after sex offenders but this does seem extreme. Maybe though that's why all the Colorado sex offenders come up here to Wyoming where they're safe. Maybe Wyoming should look around and learn from Boulder. Is this on Youtube?
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Wheaterville for the History Buffs
And sorry folks, but if you don't know who Ace is you're just not paying attention :)

Ace pauses from Real Work to reflect, enlighten and shut the cranky guy up.

The Mitch Cozad story "timed out" as in literally. Ace conferred with the in-house Guru who'll cement all the stories into the right-hand column for anyone who likes to beat dead horses. The Guru is busy doing Real Work Guru jobs right now, but hold onto your poison pen and we'll get it up there for you to fume at. The Mitch story has certainly been interesting and likely will get even more so.

Here's the abridged Wheaterville.com history, for anyone interested. Ace quit the PCRT. (That's a chapter in itself, and is most entertaining over a cuppa coffee or a glass of wine.)

Back before the first rattlesnake of the season, an editorial with a totally erroneous and unresearched LIE appeared in the PCRT. Ace, who has a low tolerance for both bad ethics and shoddy research, whipped up a rebuttal but needed a vehicle to get it out there. Ace correctly predicted that the PCRT would not supply the ride, and when that was confirmed by the nut behind the wheel (a most dangerous malfunction in any vehicle) Wheaterville.com was born.

We'll get the Guru to get that seminal work back up in the right-hand column too, so folks can reminisce.

Folks who figgered out who the heck Ace was pretty darn quickly started contacting Ace with story ideas. Clearly there was a hole in the fabric of journalism that only Wheaterville could fill, so Ace cheerfully began writing stuff.

More calls, more emails, more "hey, I L-O-V-E Wheaterville" praise from both natives and transfers and even more hand-covering-mouth whispered accolades from people who didn't think they should be sporting "Go Wheaterville.com" verbal bumper stickers in the checkout line at Safeway. (You really wouldn't believe who's reading Wheaterville! Or maybe you would...)

Be assured that Ace doesn't take offense to any nasty comments. Life'd be pretty boring if that were the case. Do be assured however, that Ace smiles broadly and often at compliments, so thanks to all-y'all who bother to pat backs and scratch itches. 'Tis much appreciated!

Copy and Paste journalism here? Not a chance in Hades. You don't like the way Ace writes? Go somewherez else. Ace'll try to not lose too much sleep over it.

Fans, be patient, 'k? Wheaterville is at that awkward Toddler stage. Smart and sassy enough that folks expect we know what we're doing, but we're really just learning how to maneuver around this strange new world. And we're growing at an astonishing rate, with lots more ideas than time. But winter is a comin'...those long dark days are great for implementing crazy ideas.

Cranky guy, knock off the out-of-your-posterior plagerism/copyright accusations. You can keep being as cranky as you want to about anything else tho. Keeps us on our toes. We like that.
Tuesday
3/4/08 8:55 AM
Mo Mousie : 
Hey Ace, we think it is great that this site is evolving and we know it takes "real work" to keep this site up to date. 
Also like the weather reports and the info on Wheatland activities.
BUT, not much from down south in Chugville land?
Tuesday
3/4/08 12:04 AM
Question: 

Ace,

Not that I would ever consider enjoying a cuppa coffee or a glass of wine with you..........who is the nut behind the wheel?  Why did you have to leave the record times?  Is Wheaterville.com  your own personal vehicle to 'stir the pot?'  It seems, after reading, that that is your intention.  I would think 15 minutes of your time could be better spent on other avenues of 'bringing people together.' It may be fun for you to see others in a dither because of what you write and post on the Internet.  Remember, although Wheatland and surrounding communities are not large, populated areas, we are not idiots and do care what is written about us.  Why don't  you try to do something productive with the time you have alloted yourself.

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ok (sorry, just seemed to fit the others!)
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